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Title: Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact by Vine, Jr. Deloria ISBN: 1-55591-388-1 Publisher: Fulcrum Pub Pub. Date: September, 1997 Format: Paperback Volumes: 1 List Price(USD): $18.95 |
Average Customer Rating: 3.76 (17 reviews)
Rating: 4
Summary: an intellectual approach to the modern day indian experience
Comment: the book marks the struggles of modern indians facing the millenium when science is considered diety. I read it with great criticism. my fears were unwarranted as i'd like to enter this entire book into the federal court record to show that science is based on theory and has no greater merit than the last theory. the title can turn some off, but its worth the read when driving through the geographical miracles cited by Deloria.Afraid some may think too boring at the the first chapter and doesn't intrige readers to continue. I 'd rearrange the chapters for the millenium. certainly frybread (food) for thought.
Rating: 4
Summary: An interesting challenge to orthodox science
Comment: As a years-long student of prehistory, Mr. Deloria's book was a breath of fresh air. As other reviews here have mentioned, the science here is hardly flawless, but Mr. Deloria does a valuable service in pointing out (among other things) where modern scholarship itself ranges from flawed to unsatisfying to ridiculous. Perhaps the best example he offers is the mass extinctions blamed on the Native American population; for many of us who have studied this matter in depth via geological strata and other methods, climactic change (which Deloria favors) is a far, far better explanation than claiming the Native Americans hunted them into the grave. I highly recommend this book for that reason, as well as the examples he points out of what amounts to racist scholarship--or at best, neglect. While I don't always agree with his work and often wished that he had provided us with more detail in several areas where both the folklore and scientific arguments were concerned, I generally agree with his conclusions, and consider this book a necessary read for anyone wanting to gain a broad understanding of American prehistory.
Rating: 5
Summary: Evolution, Indian origins, and other tall tales
Comment: I'll start this off with a disclaimer. When I was in graduate school at the University of Colorado, Vine Deloria jr. was my favorite professor. He was funny, cynical, iconoclastic, and thought-provoking. This book is Vine Deloria in print.
Vine challenges your assumptions. Do you believe in evolution or the idea that the ancestors of the American Indians came from Asia on the Bering Strait land bridge? You do? For gosh sakes, why???
Vine, with exquisite detail, relentless logic, and taunting satire, reveals the utter absurdities of these theories until you wonder with embarrassment how anyone, scientist or layman, could ever have believed such tall tales.
Likewise Vine demolishes the myth of carbon-dating, tears apart the racist doctrine that early American Indian hunters hunted the wooly mammoth and other megafauna to extintion, and makes a strong case (even stronger in some of his other books) for the works of Immanuel Velikovsky, whose works were banned, boycotted, and ridiculed -- but never disproven -- by mainline "scientists."
I started with a disclaimer, I'll end with a caveat. Just because Vine rips to shreds the myth of evolution, don't assume that he is taking a fundamentalist Christian position. He most assuredly is not. Vine believes the truth of human origins is to be found in the stories of American Indians and of other native peoples around the world. The assault on the glass house of evolution is NOT a science-vs.-fundamentalism thing, it is a bad-science-vs.-truth thing. But it took Vine Deloria to get many of us to realize that just because the theory of evolution is badly flawed and propped up only by the dogmatic religious assertions of the priests of the cult of science, that the creation-stories of the Hebrew Bible are not the only possible alternative.
This book deserves to be read by everyone: white or Indian, Christian or antichrist. Even people who fancy themselves scientific should read this book; if they are brave enough to explore Vine's premises, maybe there will be a little less bad science in the world.
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Title: Custer Died for Your Sins: An Indian Manifesto by Vine, Jr. Deloria ISBN: 0806121297 Publisher: Univ of Oklahoma Pr (Trd) Pub. Date: January, 2003 List Price(USD): $19.95 |
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Title: God Is Red: A Native View of Religion, 30th Anniversary Edition by Vine Deloria Jr., Leslie Marmon Silko, George E. Tinker ISBN: 1555914985 Publisher: Fulcrum Pub Pub. Date: September, 2003 List Price(USD): $21.95 |
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Title: Spirit & Reason: The Vine Deloria, Jr., Reader by Vine Jr. Deloria, Barbara Deloria, Kristen Foehner, Sam Scinta, Samuel Scinta, Wilma P. Mankiller ISBN: 1555914306 Publisher: Fulcrum Pub Pub. Date: August, 1999 List Price(USD): $18.95 |
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Title: Evolution, Creationism, and Other Modern Myths: A Critical Inquiry by Vine Deloria ISBN: 1555911595 Publisher: Fulcrum Pub Pub. Date: October, 2002 List Price(USD): $24.95 |
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Title: Power and Place: Indian Education in America by Vine, Jr. Deloria, Daniel R. Wildcat ISBN: 155591859X Publisher: Fulcrum Pub Pub. Date: 01 September, 2001 List Price(USD): $17.95 |
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