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Title: Noah's Flood, Joshua's Long Day, & Lucifer's Fall: What Really Happened?
by Ralph Woodrow
ISBN: 0-916938-07-7
Publisher: R. Woodrow Evangelistic Association
Pub. Date: 1984
Format: Paperback
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Summary: Typical compromising evangelical local flood compromise
Comment: Authors like Woodrow who promote local flood and long age compromises can be summarised as follows:

"'Science' has shown that the earth is billions of years old, therefore the plain meaning of Scripture must be re-interpreted to fit these 'facts'. If we [with our finite understanding] can't explain a clear biblical teaching, it follows that no explanation is possible, so we must re-interpret this also."

However, they fail to realise that science deals with repeatable observations in the *present*, while billions of years ideas are based on assumptions about the unobservable, unrepeatable *past*. Thus science can never show the world is billions of years old. Rather, we should rely on the eye-witness of One who was there, knows everything, and never lies or errs. But Woodrow et al. rely on the testimony of people who weren't there, often err and sometimes lie. So they are using the theories of fallible people to interpret the Word of the infallible God.

We should realise that different biases can result in different *interpretations* of the *same* data. For example, great thicknesses of rock layers could conceivably be produced either by a little water over long periods, or a lot of water over short periods. Because sedimentation usually occurs slowly today, it is assumed that it must have always occurred slowly. If so, then the rock layers must have formed over vast ages. The philosophy that processes have always occurred at roughly constant rates ('the present is the key to the past') is often called uniformitarianism.

I show how presuppositions strongly influence explanations about the past in my book Refuting Evolution, and this also contains a chapter on evidence for a 'young' earth and global Flood.

It's sad to see professing evangelical writers fall into the errors that characterise the 'scoffers' prophesied in 2 Peter 3: 'all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.' Peter reveals the huge flaw of the uniformitarian scoffers: they are 'willingly ignorant' of special creation by God and a cataclysmic globe-covering (and fossil-forming) flood.

To answer some of Woodrow's specific anti-global-flood arguments:

* The word "erets" translated as earth (Gen. 6:17, 7:19-23) sometimes refers to limited land areas.

However, erets is also used in Gen. 1:1-2, where it must refer to the whole earth. It also fits in with 2 Peter 3:6, where the 'world' was deluged (Greek katakluzo, from which we derive the word cataclysm) by water. Here the Flood is described in universal terms, and paralleled with the coming universal judgment. _Erets_ is often used to refer to the entire dry land surface, e.g. Gen. 1:10ff.

*Woodrow says that the phrase in Gen. 7:19,20 "under the whole heavens" is often used in a limited way e.g. Deut. 2:25.

But no one denies that such phrases are sometimes used in a limited way, or that 'all' is sometimes less than universal. But in the Flood account, God is going out of his way to emphasize the universality of the Flood -- from Genesis 7, NIV: 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and *all* the high mountains under the *entire* heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. 21 *Every* living thing that moved on the earth perished -- birds, livestock, wild animals, *all* the creatures that swarm over the earth, and *all* mankind. 22 *Everything* on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 *Every* living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. *Only* Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. Question: just suppose, for the sake of the argument, that God had wanted to teach a global flood -- how could He have said it more clearly than in Gen. 7?

*Woodrow argues that it would require 726 feet of rain per day for 40 days to cover the mountains.

But this assumes that the mountain were at their present height. However, much uplift happened during and shortly after the Flood (Ps. 104:8, 'The mountains rose; the valleys sank down' as the NASB correctly translates it). This is because of the catastrophic earth movements and huge amounts of still-unconsolidated sediments. Woodrow never bothered to find out what creationists actually teach, so set up a straw man, here and many other places. As computer programmers say, 'garbage in, garbage out'.

* Another straw man: cold and thin air above Mt. Everest?

Again, faulty assumption. Also, Woodrow is ignorant of the fact that air pressure depends on the height of the air column over the earth, relative to the main sea level, not altitude as such. Thus even if the Ark was above the mountains, because the sea level was also higher, the pressure would have been almost normal.

*Woodrow has a whole chapter claiming that Ark's crew could not have cared for all the animals.

Woodrow slavishly follows the usual bibliosceptical ploys, assuming that the animals needed to be taken care of, one at a time. But plenty of labour-saving mechanisms would have been available to the crew of eight, for example, long sloping troughs for both food and water that could have been loaded from only a few central filling stations. There are also systems to deal with waste, e.g. sloped or slatted floors; very deep, absorbent bedding; vermicomposting.

Don't waste your money on Woodrow's book -- buy John Woodmorappe's scholarly and comprehensive book _Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study_ for thorough demolition of all attacks on the Ark by atheists and their compromising evangelical lackeys. Woodmorappe shows that only 16,000 land animals would have been needed on board as passengers, and also covers a wide range of topics including rapid post-Flood variation, generation of rare alleles, food for the animals after disembarkation, and much more.

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