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Title: Beyond Discipline: From Compliance to Community
by Alfie Kohn
ISBN: 0-87120-270-0
Publisher: Association for Supervision & Curriculum Development
Pub. Date: September, 1996
Format: Paperback
Volumes: 1
List Price(USD): $17.95
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Average Customer Rating: 3.64 (11 reviews)

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Rating: 4
Summary: From compliance to community
Comment: The subtitle captures well the thrust of the book. Alfie Kohn continues to ask probing questions to challenge our assumptions and beliefs and prods us to see things from the child's perspective. Instead of being concerned with classroom management and control--getting children to do what we want, we should first ask, "What do children need?," and "How can we meet those needs?". Very often discipline problems arise, not, as it is commonly believed, out of the students' personal problems or the need for attention or power. Rather it is just because the adults' demands may be unreasonable, or the curriculum may be irrelevant. "When students are 'off task', our first response should be to ask, 'What's the task?'" (p.19). Coercion, use of punishment and rewards, any control measures are not achieving our common goals in fostering depth of understanding, independence of thinking, continuing motivation to learn and concern for others. Students should have their say, participate in making decisions, be given autonomy and responsibility. Students must feel cared about and be encouraged to care about others. Only caring relationships build community. Competition is the worst enemy. Suggestions on building community, solving problems together were given. Also answers to ten common objections. For educators who value democracy, this is a worhtwhile book.

Rating: 4
Summary: A different approach
Comment: When I first started reading Alfie Kohn's book "Beyond Discipline" I thought it would be just another book about discipline. It turned out to be pretty good. Although he was negative toward the other methods of discipline, he did a good job explaining why he felt that those methods were not the correct way in dealing with children. I think we all, sometime in our life, have punished children for doing wrong, and rewarded them for being good. The way he explained why those methods, as well as others he listed, helped me open my eyes to see his point of view. I always thought those were good methods to use, but when he talked about building a community I seemed to like that idea better. I don't believe that method will work in every classroom because each classroom & child is different. However, it would be nice if it could work in every school; would have less problems. The part about the book that will always stick with me is where he is talking about how we need to look at our own actions to see why children are misbehaving or having problems. Kohn stated, " Label a particular child a troublemaker and watch him become one." I am not saying this book has all the answers when it comes to discipline, but it does make some interesting points. Everyone can learn something from this if they keep an open mind....it's not just for teachers.

Rating: 3
Summary: Tedious to get through the first half
Comment: Kohn may have valid points about the need for more student-centered and democratic practices in the classroom, but it takes him entirely too long to get there. The first half of the book just criticizes every "traditional" classroom management program, without offering any potential solutions. It's a frustrating book to read, not so much because of what Kohn has to say, but how he says it.

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