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Title: The Women Troubadours (Norton Paperback) by Magda Bogin, Meg Bogin ISBN: 0-393-00965-3 Publisher: W.W. Norton & Company Pub. Date: March, 1980 Format: Paperback Volumes: 1 List Price(USD): $11.95 |
Average Customer Rating: 3 (3 reviews)
Rating: 2
Summary: Get this for the poetry, not for the history.
Comment: I got this expecting some history of the women troubadours, but the history presented was, to put it most charitably, old research at best. I spotted numerous historical flaws, particularly around the so-called "droit du seigneur" which supposedly gave lords carte blanche to deflower virgins before they married. Current research seems to indicate that this custom was not at all pervasive, but Bogin makes it sound like /every/ lord was out boffing brides and she spends quite a while dwelling on the implications of it. That just irked me and was hardly the only inaccuracy I detected. The general tone is of a strident feminist stomping on those nasty ol' medieval men, something else that irritated me. I truly suspect that the book is just based on old research, and a new treatment might say something entirely different.
The author is at her best when she's talking about individual women troubadours and recording their actual songs/poems. I really haven't seen such a treasure trove of primary-source poetry and songs, so I'd definitely consider this as an addition to any budding bard's library; I'm glad I got it, myself. Just don't take the historical notes too seriously without doing a bit of research yourself for verification -- it is really hysterical in places.
Rating: 4
Summary: Valuable and interesting - as literary history
Comment: This volume aims for a college audience in that provides extensive background to understand the social context of the poetry - something a scholar of the poetry would know - and it provides rather literal translations of the poems - rather than reworkings of the poems that work in English. As such, this is a book you read for what you can learn rather than for literary pleasure.
Nonetheless, it is enjoyable reading for someone (like myself) with no particular interest in the region or the time nor interest in female literature solely for the gender of the author.
The most surprising piece is a poem written by a woman to a woman. One of the more interesting to me, is a poem which straddles the troubador and religious traditions.
Rating: 3
Summary: valuable yet boring
Comment: I'm surprised that no one has yet written a review of this book; of all books on Provencale poetry, this is the most common in bookstores at the moment.
Here's my blurb for the uninitiated: The Troubadours were these fantastic baudy poets who composed in Old Provencale during the 12th Century, all around such characters as Eleanor of Aquataine. Everyone should find out more about them. But the big extra are the Trobaritz, women troubadours; for they actually composed extensively as well. We finally get to hear the other side of courtly love.
And for the initiated: Certainly this book is a great contribution to the study of Provencal poetry, literary feminism, etc etc. It is the most thorough yet approachable group of translations out there. But the translations are a bit clumsy. The poems come out pretty boring. The book depends on the value of the poetry of the Trobaritz as work by women, its feminist appeal, rather than its literary appeal; and that's both sad and dull. As one of the first serious treatments of the poetry of the Trobaritz it's invaluable, thank God it was written, it is the best so far that I know of. I'd be enormously proud of myself, if I completed such a work. But it is not as inspired a treatment as the Trobaritz deserve. Hopefully The Women Troubadours will pave the way for better translations that appreciate the poetry as well as the gender theory.
But then I have a general inclination to find the English translations grossly inadequate; so I'm certainly biased. Anyone want to improve upon my customer comment?
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Title: The Music of the Troubadours by Elizabeth Aubrey ISBN: 0253213894 Publisher: Indiana University Press Pub. Date: July, 2000 List Price(USD): $24.95 |
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Title: Women Poets of the Italian Renaissance: Courtly Ladies and Courtesans by Laura Anna Stortoni, Mary Prentice Lillie ISBN: 0934977437 Publisher: Italica Press, Inc. Pub. Date: June, 1997 List Price(USD): $20.00 |
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Title: The World of the Troubadours : Medieval Occitan Society, c.1100-c.1300 by Linda M. Paterson ISBN: 0521558328 Publisher: Cambridge University Press Pub. Date: 05 October, 1995 List Price(USD): $32.00 |
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Title: Ermengard of Narbonne and the World of the Troubadours (Conjunctions of Religion and Power in the Medieval Past) by Fredric L. Cheyette ISBN: 0801439523 Publisher: Cornell Univ Pr Pub. Date: November, 2001 List Price(USD): $35.00 |
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Title: A Handbook of the Troubadours (Publications of the UCLA Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies, 26) by F. R. P. Akehurst, Judith M. Davis ISBN: 0520079760 Publisher: University of California Press Pub. Date: November, 1995 List Price(USD): $29.95 |
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