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Title: Original Prayer: Teachings and Meditations on the Aramaic Words of Jesus by Neil Douglas Klotz, Neil Douglas-Klotz ISBN: 1-56455-720-0 Publisher: Sounds True Pub. Date: March, 2000 Format: Audio Cassette Volumes: 6 List Price(USD): $59.95 |
Average Customer Rating: 4 (4 reviews)
Rating: 1
Summary: Wrong pronounciation - fantasy interpretation
Comment: Sorry to say, but this work is NOT one of the best. First of all, the interpretations the author gives - may they be spiritually uplifting - are a sufi interpretation and addition. Sufism is the mystical school if the Islam.
If you want to get down to the core of Jesus and his prayer you must look at him entirely through Near Eastern eyes at the time of Jesus.
The pronounciation: a complete enigma! No Aramaic scholar whould know where Mr Klotz got the pronounciation from which he displays here. Abwoon dbaschmaya. The "b" letter as written in both cases must collaps in this grammatical case when pronounced: awoon dwashmeya. And that is only 1 shore example.
The way Mr Klotz speaks the lord's prayer, Jesus has definitely NOT spoken it. There exists a CD with the reliable pronounciation of the Lord's Prayer but I am afraid it is only available ... word by word and phrase by phrase spoken in Aramaic and explained in English by Dr. Rocco Errico (more about him further below), the world's foremost authority in Aramaic studies in relation to Jesus. The title of that CD is "Acht Einstimmungen auf Gott" (Eight Attunements to God).
If you ask me, the only reliable source for Aramaic knowledge is Dr. Rocco Errico, whose many books you can find here ... By the way, Dr. Errico was one of Douglas-Klotz's teachers and this makes Mr. Klotz's pronounciation more than incomprehensible because he learnt it actually from the number one authority in the world.
In closing: if you want a worthwile interpretation of the Lord's Prayer based on the ancient Near Eastern culture and language, trust the book "Setting a Trap for God" by Dr. Rocco Errico. Everything else is coloured by Mr. Klotz's own preferences. But it has nothing to do with Jesus and his times. Jesus was down to earth and a revolutionist, not a sufi mystic.
Rating: 5
Summary: A Poetic, Mystic Vision of the Words of Jesus
Comment: If you know in your heart that there is something deeper than the language and the meaning you find in the traditional Bible translations . . .
If you're a mystic in spirit, always yearning for a greater, more intimate experience of God . . .
If you're avidly curious about the man known as Jesus, what he really said, what he really meant, how he really experienced life and God . . .
If your heart sings at the thought of chanting, singing, praying the actual sounds used by Jesus as he taught his followers what we now know as the Lord's Prayer . . .
. . . Then this audio series is for you. Built on a strong foundation of scholarship that transcends religious traditions (Douglas-Klotz was raised in, studied and deeply respects Christian, Jewish and Islamic beliefs and practices, and brings all of them into his discussion), this work is warm, deep, accessible, open, and transparent. It is a poet's work, exposing the many interwoven threads of meaning imbedded in every word of Jesus's Aramaic prayer and inviting each of us into our own intimate, deeply personal interpretation and understanding of every phrase, word, sound. This is not something to be "learned" -- it's something to be lived, breathed, experienced. Beautiful!
Rating: 5
Summary: The best resource for The Lord's Prayer in Aramaic
Comment: Neil Douglas Klotz provides a 12 lesson, step-by-step, audio program to learn, not only the prayer in the Aramaic language, but also the full meaning.
I truly love Neil's approach to this prayer through his singing of each line and by having the participant feel the meanings through his body prayer methodology.
I play the tapes in my car during my long commutes and have learned enough to actually say the prayer as Jesus said it. My children, ages 5 and 8, happily sing along with Neil.
I highly recommend this to anyone wanting to learn the Aramaic pronunciations and FEEL the prayer.
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Title: Prayers of the Cosmos : Meditations on the Aramaic Words of Jesus by Neil Douglas-Klotz ISBN: 0060619953 Publisher: Harper SanFrancisco Pub. Date: 22 October, 1993 List Price(USD): $13.00 |
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Title: The Hidden Gospel by Neil Douglas-Klotz ISBN: 083560795X Publisher: Quest Books Pub. Date: 01 March, 2001 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
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Title: The Genesis Meditations: A Shared Practice of Peace for Christians, Jews, and Muslims by Neil Douglas-Klotz ISBN: 0835608247 Publisher: Quest Books Pub. Date: October, 2003 List Price(USD): $24.95 |
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Title: Setting a Trap for God: The Aramaic Prayer of Jesus by Rocco A. Errico ISBN: 0871591243 Publisher: Unity Pub. Date: February, 1997 List Price(USD): $10.95 |
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Title: The Heart of the Qur'an: An Introduction to Islamic Spirituality by Lex Hixon, Neil Douglas-Klotz ISBN: 0835608220 Publisher: Quest Books Pub. Date: September, 2003 List Price(USD): $18.95 |
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