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Title: Beyond the End Times: The Rest of the Greatest Story Ever Told by John R. Noe ISBN: 0-9621311-4-8 Publisher: International Preterist Association Pub. Date: 01 September, 2000 Format: Paperback Volumes: 1 List Price(USD): $19.95 |
Average Customer Rating: 2.93 (15 reviews)
Rating: 5
Summary: A Revelation in Itself
Comment: I have studied the end times off and on now for almost 3 years. It started with a study on Revelation at my church. I read my bible more than ever while studying Revelation because in order to understand Rev., you simply have to! During my own personal study, something about the "Left Behind" theory just didn't seem to fit scripturally, even though I was raised to believe it. I delved deeper in scripture and read books on different end times "theories" and beliefs. I kept comparing scripture to scripture and would come up with contradictions with my old beliefs. I prayed that God would lead me to the truth. This view point (preterist) makes more logical sense and is more in line with the scriptures than anything else I have read. In the last chapter of Revelation Jesus told John 3 times "I am coming soon". Jesus himself told his disciples that all "this" (Matt 24) would be fulfilled during "this generation". Many have tried to spiritualize that statement, yet make others literal. Since there are so many instances where the disciples and Jesus said that the time was "soon" it makes perfect sense to take these "time stamps" literal.
In Chapter 21 the New Jerusalem is described: "the old order of things is passed away", "I am making everything new", we get to drink from the "spring of the water of life", there is no longer any sea (no separation from God),"now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them". I believe most Christians would believe that the old order of things has already passed away and that we are already drinking from the water of life,we do not have a separation from God and that He dwells with us NOW. The New Jerusalem is present! We don't have to wait...we are living it as Christians. Yes, He also said there would be no tears/pain, but pain can also mean anguish and He was talking to believers THEN. Their anguish and tears were wiped away by the Holy Spirit.
Also, while Daniel was told to "close up" his prophesies concerning end times, John was told NOT to seal his up because "the time is near". Daniel's prophies came totally true to the days he layed out if you believe the preterist view.
I have found this view to be lacking in the inconsistencies that the other views seem to have. I have also found this view point reminds me of the tremendous gift (the Holy Spirit) that I have as a believer and the power He can give. I need to live my life for Christ now and make a difference for him now and not wait to be lifted out and hoping for an escape.
I would highly recommend this book to every Christian believer who has studied and feels that the scripture isn't "matching up" to what they currently believe. This book lines up scripture and compares scripture to scripture so that you can see the Bible is a book of truth and common sense.
Rating: 1
Summary: Avoid this simplistic book
Comment: An old adage warns: "Never judge a book by the cover." This book has a very nice, computer graphics cover. Unfortunately, the covers are too far apart: too many pages are wasted in presenting a rambling, unorthodox position.
Noe is not a theologian, as the Foreword in the book states and as his argument proves. He is another in the breed of "prophecy experts" who is untrained in theology and exegesis, and is proud of it.
His chapter three captures the main point of the book. That chapter is titled: "Why the World Will Never End." It is based on a serious misreading of various texts. I imagine with his approach to Scripture he thinks the sun revolves around the earth, the earth has four corners, and more. These are statements based on appearance from the human perspective; they are not statements of actual fact about reality. The Bible can speak of the world with such language as easily as meteriologists can tell us what time the sun will "rise" tomorrow (even though the sun does not "rise," but the earth "revolves").
Noe misses the meaning of his favorite texts as badly as Mormons miss the meaning of Scriptures that speak of "the eyes of the Lord are in every place," "the arm of the Lord is not shortened that it cannot save," and more. Mormon interpretive methodology leads them to declare that God has a body like we do. Noe's interpretive method makes the same sort of mistakes on another set of verses.
This is THE most serious problem with Noe's writing: As untrained in biblical languages and unschooled in formal theology and unread in ecclesiastical history, he approaches Scripture in a simplistic, confusing fashion.
If you want a better work on eschatology, I would recommend either Gary DeMar, "Last Day's Madness" or Darrell Bock, "Three Views of the Millennium and Beyond." The last mentioned book looks beyond the end of history (yes, Virginia, there is an end to history) to the eternal order.
Rating: 1
Summary: Absurd
Comment: If you like to see people playing around with theology this might be the book for you. But if you hate to see people wading in over their heads, stay clear.
This is very disappointing work. Although the author makes dramatic claims to being a theologian, his writing actually betrays him as a novice.
I can see why this book was not published by a major, reputable publisher: it is absurd through and through. Read some of the reviews below to get a sense of the disappointing argument of this book.
Noe actually believes Christ's second coming was in the first century, that earth history will NEVER end (in fact, this seems to be a major point of this book), that Christians should not expect a future resurrection from the dead, and many other errors.
If you are looking for helpful material on prophetic issues, look somewhere else.
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Title: The Last Days According to Jesus by R. C. Sproul ISBN: 080106340X Publisher: Baker Books Pub. Date: 01 December, 2000 List Price(USD): $14.99 |
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Title: Before Jerusalem Fell: Dating the Book of Revelation by Kenneth L. Gentry ISBN: 0915815435 Publisher: American Vision Pub. Date: October, 1998 List Price(USD): $25.95 |
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Title: The Great Tribulation Past or Future?: Two Evangelicals Debate the Question by Thomas Ice, Kenneth L. Gentry ISBN: 0825429013 Publisher: Kregel Publications Pub. Date: 01 April, 1999 List Price(USD): $12.99 |
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Title: Last Days Madness: Obsession of the Modern Church by Gary Demar ISBN: 0915815354 Publisher: American Vision Pub. Date: 01 September, 1999 List Price(USD): $19.95 |
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Title: Shattering The' Left Behind' Delusion by John Noe ISBN: 0962131164 Publisher: International Preterist Association Pub. Date: 01 September, 2000 List Price(USD): $12.95 |
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