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Title: Zope Bible by Michael Bernstein, Scott Robertson ISBN: 0-7645-4857-3 Publisher: Wiley Pub. Date: 05 April, 2002 Format: Paperback Volumes: 1 List Price(USD): $49.99 |
Average Customer Rating: 4.29 (7 reviews)
Rating: 5
Summary: You Need to Learn the Python Stuff!
Comment: The Zope Bible took me where I needed to go in learning Zope. While the Zope Book was quite excellent on the use of Zope and the Zope Management Interface (ZMI) for doing work, it was far, far too thin on the scripting and programming front.
The Book of Zope had very little I found useful.
I bought the Zope Bible after looking it over in them bookstore for about a half-hour. It is not for Zope newbies, for sure (though a particularly hardy newbie could probably grok it OK). But if you've done some Zope work and you find yourself hemmed in by the fences of the ZMI and hampered by a lack of ability to understand how the Zope objects interact with one another and with the outside world, this book is exactly right. It has answered more than a dozen questions I had that I had asked on the Zope mailing list to no avail.
The book is clear, well-written, cleanly organized and quite complete.
I agree it's probably not worthy of the monikder "Bible" but it is easily the most comprehensive book on Python devleopment in and for Zope that you'll find. And, believe me, you need to learn Python to make most effective use of Zope for anything beyond toy apps. Zope's ZClasses are a fragile gossamer. The real power is in the Python programmability of the thing.
Rating: 2
Summary: Not a book to help you get started
Comment: Having a little experience of python, but none using zope, I purchased this book because of the other reviews I read here.
The first few chapters are very good and have helped me 'sell' zope to management because they describe why zope is such a good applications environment.
However, when it came to helping build applications, unless you want to build products, then this book contains almost nothing on scripting or using external methods (and hence the python functions outside the safety of zope). There is just a few pages on zope methods and only a 'hello' world on using external methods.
I was hoping to get a zope based application up and running fairly quickly to convince my colleagues that we can use zope effectivley, and for that I needed to access existing application (and hence external data using external methods).
I don't doubt that once you become experienced this book serves as a good reference book and a good guide for advancing to more sophisticated applications, but for an inexperienced zope applications developer it is not at all helpful.
Rating: 5
Summary: This is the Zope Book I Was Looking For
Comment: I have a fair amount of experience in Python, but I had not yet had time to really get into Zope despite being intrigued by it for some time. When the opportunity presented itself to do some work with Zope, I jumped at the chance... only to find myself somewhat lost in a thicket of new concepts and vocabulary.
After initially trying with "The Zope Book" and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management," I could create simple applications with dtml and pythonscripts, but I still felt like I wasn't really grokking Zope: I felt that the things which I created were not terribly scalable or portable. There is an extensive section on ZPatterns in the end of "Web Application Dev," but I gave that a pass when I found that ZPatterns are not supported in the current Zope releases.
This book was exactly what I needed to get past that wall: The section on application development in Python allowed me to leverage my existing knowledge to create some products that have now gone into full production use. I now feel much more confident building, extending, and integrating Zope apps.
This book is well written; It answered the questions that I came up with almost as soon as I came up with them, making it an easy read. The code listings were helpful without being prohibitively long. The book doesn't coddle the reader with excessive detail on simple topics, but gives just enough to understand. I loaned this book to a friend who only knows Perl and C, and he found the included Python intro enough to bring him up to speed on Python as well as Zope.
All that said, there is no substitute for actually sitting down with Zope and playing with it. This book will not make you an expert on the complete system, but it will make Zope transparent enough that you can continue your education on your own.
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Title: Zope: Web Application Development and Content Management by Steve Spicklemire, Kevin Friedly, Jerry Spicklemire, Kim Brand ISBN: 0735711100 Publisher: SAMS Pub. Date: 12 December, 2001 List Price(USD): $49.99 |
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Title: The Definitive Guide to Plone by Andy McKay ISBN: 1590593294 Publisher: APRS Pub. Date: 28 June, 2004 List Price(USD): $44.99 |
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Title: Python Cookbook by Alex Martelli, David Ascher ISBN: 0596001673 Publisher: O'Reilly & Associates Pub. Date: 15 July, 2002 List Price(USD): $39.95 |
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Title: The Zope Book by Amos Latteier, Michel Pelletier ISBN: 0735711372 Publisher: SAMS Pub. Date: 17 July, 2001 List Price(USD): $39.99 |
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Title: Learning Python, Second Edition by Mark Lutz, David Ascher ISBN: 0596002815 Publisher: O'Reilly & Associates Pub. Date: December, 2003 List Price(USD): $34.95 |
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